Breeding….14.2hh to a 16.3hh horse!?
okay so i have my mare that is a really cute little 5 year old. I want to breed her because she is a BEAUTIFUL mover! but she is 14. 2hh. so she is really tiny! but i have a couple questions. . . .
if i am breeding her to a 16. 3hh stallion & she is 14. 2hh how tall do you think the baby will come out?
then i was wondering what color it would come out?
she is a gray & white tobiano paint
here's 2 pictures of her
http://www. facebook. com/home. php?#/photo. php?pid=250980&id=1818551437
http://www. facebook. com/home. php?#/photo. php?pid=250981&id=1818551437&fbid=1117031225499
Well then the sire is the gift of midas.
here is some pictures of him
http://www. facebook. com/mvphr?v=photos&ref=ts#/photo. php?pid=1566&id=1749722254&fbid=1003109855242
http://www. facebook. com/mvphr?v=photos&ref=ts#/photo. php?pid=130709&id=1749722254&fbid=1071343761047
then heres a video of him:
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=XSmsEorkkHQ
here's his dreamhorse page witch has his pedigree on it!
http://www. dreamhorse. com/show_horse. php?form_horse_id=1266471&share_this=Y
well my mare's pedigree is her dams side is all Quarter horses then her dads side is all bay & gray paints!
so i need to know:
how many hands you think the baby will be?
what color will it turn out?
please & thanks(:
okay everyone shut up!!!!
i am breeding her so i can have another show horse!!!! her babie will be a really nice western pleasure/hunter under saddle babie!!!! don't be lecturing me!!! i already have experience with babies!!! But i've never breed!!!! stop telling me not to breed her. No i don't ride shitty arabs! i am breeding her to get a $10,000-$20,000 dollar baby! i am breeding to get a super nice world calaber baby!!! i jsut wanted to know if anyone knew about color genes & if they knew about hight. . . . The baby will be a APHA & shown APHA
Sorry my pictures don't work:(
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June 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 am
Well the height can range from her hieght to bigger!
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:22 am
It won’t let me open the pictures of your mare, but the only way of knowing what colour the baby could be is by gene testing the mare, since the gray covers up her true colour. Your baby could come out gray, or could come out chestnut or bay; there’s no telling. As for how tall, it could be anywhere in between! You probably won’t have a great chance of getting a big, big horse, though. The foal won’t grow bigger than is comfortable for the mare to carry.
Beautiful choice of stallion, though. Shame I can’t see your mare
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 am
It will probably end up a paint. I couldn’t look at your mares pictures. Anyways, the foal will probably end up around 15 hands or so. But there is always a chance of it being 14 or even 16. Good luck. I really feel you should not be breeding unless you are really experienced in what you are doing. I do know too that you must not be very experienced in it, since you are asking people on Yahoo! Answers about this. You should do research first. And just consider getting another horse instead of breeding. The problem with the world is there are amatures breeding these 15 hand horses that nobody wants (everyone wants 16 hands to 14 or shorter) and they end up neglected. Try adopting or something.
Anyways, the stallion is very nice looking and seems like he will be a good choice. I wish I could see your mare. Have you thought about waiting to breed her when she gets older? She is only 5 and has a long life ahead of her. You could show her and things like that and then breed her in her teens?
Anyways, just thought I would point out, that guy riding the stallion really bothered me. His legs were more constantly lol.
**EDIT**
Wow, thanks for the disturbing email. I do know alot about horses. Maybe not breeding, but I do know some. All I am saying is that if you did know enough about them then you wouldn’t be on here asking. And like you said in the email that your mom knows so much about breeding then ask her the question
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:54 am
if this is her first baby then i would find a smaller stallion, she could have complications if the baby is too big
also do a background check on the mares that the stallion has already bred, find out the health of his babies and make sure none of the mares had any complications
my friends mare just died because she was bred to a larger stallion, the baby was turned inside of her and she couldnt have it, the baby died insider her then she died a little while latter (she was found that morning) turns out the stallion has a history of producing babies who turn inside the mare and they both end up dieing so please make sure he is the right one
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 am
cannot view your photo’s.
height anything between the parents height.
colour should not be a concern really. 1st thing to worry about is if it is going to be fit and healthy.
i don’t really agree with mating a pony to a larger horse. something up height of 15 hands would be kinder. a lot of people say you can breed a very large horse to a pony and she will only have a foal she is capable of passing. but knowing mares that have died trying to give birth to foals by stallions near their own height, i don’t think it should be done.
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:34 am
MM below is an answer to a question I answered the other day. I did not look at the pics of your horse or the stallion you mentioned so I offer no opinion as to the quality of ether one and the TB mentioned below is not important. Whats important is the message I’m asking you to take into consideration before you go to breeding any horse.. There enough of them out there now that need homes.
Regards
Smokie
First question… Why do you want to breed her? If your answer is “I just want to see what kind of colt she has” Then don’t breed her!!! There are far too many backyard breeders out there and far far too many unwanted horses with no homes and no chance of a productive life.. Breeding horses is (or should be) done for specific reasons.. The improve the breed, quality and performance of the horse. Not just to see what comes out if I mix this mutt with that one. Ok enough ranting sorry.
What is your intended purpose for this horse? Shes a Thoroughbred with racing bloodlines on the top and very little breeding of note of the bottom. Are you looking to go into the racing business? If so shes not a quality bred horse that will produce a winner at the derby. Especially if she has not raced and won! If your looking to make a trail horse from her colt breeding a racehorse to get one is not a good place to start ether! So I know I gave you more questions than answers but these are the questions that you and everyone else must ask yourself before you indiscriminately go to breeding without a purpose in mind for the new colt you are about to bring into this world..
And also keep in mind that the saying two mouths are as easy to feed as one does not apply to horses!!
Also check out another recently posted question by Alli about saving the horses its a good eye opener to what is happening around the country and a lot of it comes from breeding for no reason..
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 am
I cannot view the photos.
But, are you sure you have enough reason to breed?
A horse should not be bred unless it has:
-Excellent conformation
-Successful show or work record
-Excellent demeanor
-Excellent mover
-Excellent talent and willingness
-Train-ability
-Registration papers
The way you wrote this, it makes it sound like you are only breeding for size and color. Is that is true, then you are wasting your time with breeding, and it would be much cheaper and easier to just go buy a prospect that fits your criteria.
If you have never trained/worked with a foal then you also should not be breeding. Foals are a lot of very very hard work. If you have no experience with foals, then I advise you to get a job at a stable and learn how to work with foals before you even consider breeding.
Horses are extremely overpopulated right now, so the only horses that should be bred are exceptional ones that will produce foals that would be easy to sell in case you cannot keep it.
What if the foal only grew to the same size as your mare? What would you do then?
If you are only breeding for color or size, then you have no business breeding.
EDIT: On your profile, you say that your mare is a witch. Why in the world would you want to breed her if she has a nasty personality?
EDIT:::: Holy freaking crap, there is absolutely no need to send my harassing emails and cuss me out and make up lies about yourself. It’s very obvious that your amre is not a 3x world champion, if she was, she would be somewhere on the internet but i can’t find her anywhere. Do not send me anymore emails. Youa re acting like an immature child, which you obviously are. Get over yourself, you asked a question and i said my opinion. That is what happens when you post things on the internet, not everyone will agree with you. Grow up and get overself and stop making up lies and harrassing people.
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 am
sorry but a horse that bid shouldnt breed a horse that small sorry
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:13 am
I can’t open this pictures of your mare and I don’t know a lot about AQHA “hunters”.
My comment is more about the height of the horses
I don’t think it will be a big deal.
My trainer bred her 17.2hh warmblood mare to her 17.2 Grand Prix horse. TIt was the mares first baby and she ended up having trouble giving birth and died.
the next year she bred a really fancy 12.1hh Small pony to the same horse. Again it was the mares first baby. The mare had no problems and gave birth of her own. Her baby is now a 14.2hh 5 year old super fancy like her mom and can jump amazingly well like her dad.
So you can never really guess how things will turn out.
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 am
all that you are asking depends on genetics. There is honestly no certain way for anybody to know without DNA tests on both the dam and the sire, but that is expensive and i don’t recommend it unless you have a couple grand your don’t need.
Just by sheer guesstimating and judging from both parents heights im gonna guess probably closer to the mommy’s height but again depending on genetics she could get bigger. I am guesstimating that she would be closer to the dam however, since while in the womb she can’t grow bigger than the mare can carry. Despite that i do know of a foal who’s mother was about 15.2-15.3 who’s foal is about1 16.3. So i would guess your gonna get a bout 15hh out of this.
Watch carefully during the pregnancy and work with your vet though since there is such a large height difference between you mare and the stud horse. The foal i mentioned above was a surprise. Her mother was sold to our barn without us being told she was pregnant. She was a great mare and since we weren’t looking to see if she was pregnant she passed the vet check. She was never put on supplements, she was never put on any special feed in fact for a while we thought she was just plain fat, so fat that we had the vet come out about a week or two before the due date when we found out she was pregnant. Up until then, she had been on a diet. Even with all that the foal still got big. So be careful and work with your vet very closely so that the pregnancy goes well for your mare and so that labor isn’t to difficult. Good Luck With your mare!!
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 am
Happily, if your mare survives to deliver a foal, it’ll be a pinto and grey out completely out by 2 or so.
I see no valid reason for the “stallion” to be reproducing. Just because those “Krazy Kolor Breeders” (to quote Fugly) can’t see past color is no reason not to geld the yak.
If you don’t like my answer and send me one of your ill advised ranting e-mails, I will report you.
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 am
The foal could grow to be only 14.2hh or it could grow to be as big as 16.3hh. It’s even possible for the horse to be under 14.2hh over OVER 16.3hh, although quite unlikely. The foal is more likely to mature somewhere between the heights of her parents. Maybe 15.2hh?
There is no way to determine what colour the foal will come out as we do not know the genes of the stallion and mare. It’s likely it will be paint due to both of his parents being paint and it having paint bloodlines, but it could suprise you and come out bay for all you know!
Be patient. You’ll have to be unfortunately LOL.